Celebrity Interview: Has DC Earned a Justice League Film?

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By April Walsh, @AprilMWalsh, contributing writer for www.LegendaryWomen.org.

The answer is complicated. I’ve gone on before about Marvel and their formula. Each hero gets a film, with or without cameos from the others, then they come together for a big, splashy thrill ride. Yes, it’s a formula, but it’s one that works at the ticket window and wins points with fans. So, when DC came along and announced their plans, many fans were skeptical and comparing the DC Extended Universe unfavorably to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Ben Affleck as Batman in JUSTICE LEAGUE. © 2017 Warner Brothers
It was fair. Man of Steel was good enough, but Batman V. Superman was a mess. Ben Affleck’s retired, grizzled Batman was not established before we met him. That’s not to say he didn’t do a good job with the character, possibly way better than expected, but that film had its work cut out for it. With too many threads to weave together, it was a crowded mess with many moments that bordered on unintentional comedy.

Then came Wonder Woman. I remember writing, before it came out, that it really needed to be good or this franchise would be dead, upcoming Justice League or no. Luckily, it was. It had a good plot, interesting characters, great action, and it remains the best female superhero movie — not that it had much competition as all other feature films were critical and commercial flops. It was definitely a win for women hoping to see more kickass ladies on their screens, but was it a win for DC fans and this franchise going forward?

If I were to describe the feeling around Justice League, it’s a mix of hope and fear. We want to think Wonder Woman’s success signals an upward trend in plot, script, general quality. But we also fear that crowding five big name heroes into one film will leave all of them under-served. Only Superman and Wonder Woman have had their own films, Batman arguably had a half-fil, but The Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman were only seen in glimpses in BvS and Suicide Squad. No, I haven’t forgotten that film. It was also a big old mess with only some redeeming moments, but I think Wonder Woman won enough good will that fans are willing to overlook it as an unrelated side-trip while still hoping the new JL film will fulfill all their hopes and dreams.
The JUSTICE LEAGUE. © 2017 Warner Brothers

One thing that gives me a glimmer of hope in all this is that they pulled in some outside help for the script and, in my opinion, they called in the ultimate script doctor: Joss Whedon! I’m an unrepentant fangirl for Joss Whedon. The man co-wrote Toy Story, made The Avengers and its sequel, not to mention helming the most under-appreciated show of its time, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I’m very happy that Director Zack Snyder brought him in to fix up the script, add more lightness and humor, and that Whedon took the director’s chair for the remainder of the shoot and some reshoots.

I am less happy for the circumstances surrounding it, that of Zack Snyder losing his daughter, but he trusted Whedon to finish his work and, obviously, many fans also trust Whedon. That’s not to say that Snyder’s grittier, more grounded superhero ideas have no merit. Despite some flaws, I thought Man Of Steel was very easy to leap into from the real world. But he lacks the levity and humor that comes to Whedon so easily even in the midst of horror and violence. I would recommend that Snyder, when he’s ready to work again, keeps Whedon around in later films to balance out the tone.


Ezra Miller, Ben Affleck & Gal Gadot in JUSTICE LEAGUE.
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Off course, Zack Snyder does have loyal fans as well and Gal Gadot AKA Wonder Women is there to reassure them. “This is Zack Snyder’s movie,” Gadot said to Empire Magazine. “Joss only did a few weeks of reshoots. He was Zack’s guy and knew exactly what he wanted to get.” She also wanted to allay their fears about the tone. “Justice League is not a dark or heavy movie. It doesn’t have the weight that Batman v. Superman had.” Also, as much as her film was the biggest critical hit of the group, she doesn’t want you to think that means she’ll be casting a shadow on the other heroes. “Diana serves as the glue of the team. She finds moments to support every one of the team and makes them feel stronger or believe in themselves, but this is not a Wonder Woman movie.” [1]
That’s not to say she is off on the sidelines, as Gadot told Us Weekly, “She’s grown up — it’s been a century, after all! She’ll bring her specific qualities to a group dynamic, and she understands the enemy better than anyone else.” As for Batman, he’ll struggle with the group dynamic, according to Affleck, even though he is the one who helps put them all together. “In Batman V Superman, he was at the end of his rope. But in Justice League he’s finding hope again. He has to open up and play well with others. He knows he needs them,” Ben Affleck told Us Weekly. [2]
Affleck also addressed concerns about the tone of the previous film. “I can understand people saying it was too dark, or this was outside the tone of what I’m used to seeing with a Batman story, and I think that’s a fair criticism,” he told Deadline. But he felt that was where it needed to start before lightening up, that Snyder “wanted to make a movie that was more fun, that was a little bit light, that wasn’t so encumbered with heavy melodrama.” [3] He thinks that Whedon was a good choice to fulfill that. “He’s a good storyteller, full stop.,” Affleck said further to Empire Magazine. “In mid-stream, Joss got on and part of what interested him was the puzzle aspect of it, fitting in pieces that weren’t there yet. He put the rest of the pieces in and gave it his own imprimatur. Joss came in and walked a very fine line between Zack’s sensibility, tone, and direction. We found a really fun and inspiring synthesis of their two forms of storytelling. I was so glad everyone showed up to work for Zack.” [1]
Ezra Miller as Barry Allen/The Flash in JUSTICE LEAGUE.
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As for what’s in store for Bats, as said above, he will struggle to allow others into his mission, even while being the one recruiting them. “He’s sort of the ultimate loner,” Affleck told Us Weekly, “but he’s really trying to make it work and develop a good relationship with all of them. He might be a mentor to The Flash.” [2] As for The Flash, Ezra Miller is excited to explore the relationship between Batman AKA Brice Wayne and Barry Allen.
"I think it's the relationship between someone who is naive and excited and someone who is experienced and jaded," Miller told IGN. "Bruce, the aged Batman, is everything that being a superhero means you could become, in terms of being pretty shut down and having seen all this horror. He's like a veteran of this struggle against evil. And Barry is just getting into it, and it seems exciting! And very fun! And so, I think they have a lot to learn from each other, like in any great friendship. I think it's a fascinating relationship." [4] More than that, Miller is just happy to be in the gang. “I love this gang of weirdos,” he told People. “We’re all very different humans and we really love each other through and through. I personally always feel that the goodness of what we create interpersonally on a set flows into the quantum fabric of the film.” [5]
Ray Fisher as Victor Stone/Cyborg in JUSTICE LEAGUE.
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While there’s excitement for the interactions between Batman and The Flash, there’s also some hype for The Flash mixing with Cyborg AKA Victor Stone. Ray Fisher will be playing the half-robot who will become The JL’s chief strategist and mission commander. I always enjoy his no-nonsense ways, especially when paired with the irreverent Flash. In this film, Fisher says there will be a bond between them. “Well, Cyborg and The Flash, they do get their powers as a result of accidents and that bonds them in a very specific way, both through the traumas that they’ve had, but also due to the fact that they’re the youngest members of the group,” he told the crowd this summer at San Diego Comic Con. “What I think works is that you have all these characters that have been dealing with their personal issues who come together, for lack of a better term, come together and are able to use those circumstances to save the world. [6]

For me personally, one of the more exciting casting choices was Jason Momoa as Arthur Curry/Aquaman. Growing up, Aquaman was always the most corny to me. From the outfit to the blond hair to the fact that his big powers are swimming fast and talking to fish, he always seemed almost silly next to serious Batman, brooding Cyborg, and the hilarious Flash. And I was never that into his on-again/off-again romance with Wonder Woman, who seemed out of his league to me. But with Momoa… it all works.

Jason Momoa as Arthur Curry/Aquaman in JUSTICE LEAGUE.
© 2017 Warner Brothers
From the muscles to the beard to the epic eyebrows to the sunbleached hair (rather than full-on blonde) to the sheer size of the man, to his surfing skills, he radiates badass and now I’m kind of rooting for a little flirtation between Arthur Curry and Diana Prince. No word on whether that will happen, but a girl can dream.

Of course, they are playing it coy about Henry Cavill’s Superman. “I’m afraid I can’t talk about it,” he recently told Men’s Fitness Magazine. “In fact, I’m sure there’s someone waiting just outside my house in case they overhear me say something. Then I’ll be shuffled off involuntarily.” [7] But we all know he was filming reshoots in London and much was made of the fact that he had grown a mustache for Mission: Impossible 6, that has to be erased in post-production by CGI. He hasn’t been at the panels or on the publicity tour. We all know he’s coming back, but no one wants to spoil just how. I’m fine with being surprised, so long as it’s entertaining.

As for another thing that gives me hope, Danny Elfman will be scoring the film, working with Junkie XL, who previously worked on BvS and gave Wonder Woman her theme. This is Elfman’s first time scoring a DC film since his iconic score for 1989’s Batman. Justice League also stars Amy Adams and Jeremy Irons reprising their roles as Lois Lane and Alfred Pennyworth, Diane Lane as Martha Kent, Jesse Eisenberg will also be appearing as the now-imprisoned Lex Luthor (hopefully with a more subdued performance), and Connie Nielsen will be putting on Hippolyta’s armor again. New to the cast is Ciaran Hinds in a motion capture performance as villain Steppenwolf, Willem Dafoe as one of Aquaman’s advisors, J.K. Simmons as Commissioner Gordon, and Joe Morton as Silas Stone, Victor’s father.

Jason Momoa, Gal Gadot & Ray Fisher in JUSTICE LEAGUE.
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An Aquaman solo film is already filming and slated for 2018 with some good casting choices (Nicole Kidman, Willem Dafoe, among others) and one following Shazam is in pre-production as well as films in development for Cyborg, Flash and another for Wonder Woman. Nothing is for sure yet, though. I think execs are waiting to see how this film does before committing the time and money to compete with Marvel.

Back to my original question, though: Has DC earned this? Not in full. Though there was some narrative sense between the first two films, I’d rather have them gone on to give each hero a solo movie before putting them together this way. But we still want it to be good because we care about these characters, we want to see them on our screens as long as they do what they’re meant to do, which is entertain and inspire us. I guess I’m just another DC fan, joining the hordes with a very simple plea: Please be good!



Justice League opens November 17th and is rated PG-13 for “intense sequences of sci-fi violence, action and destruction, and for some language.”

1. https://www.empireonline.com/movies/justice-league/justice-league-exclusive-new-look-gal-gadot-ben-affleck/2. http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/fall-movie-preview-15-must-see-flicks-w502612/justice-league-w5026153. http://deadline.com/2017/10/ben-affleck-batman-v-superman-empire-zack-snyder-justice-league-1202182255/4. http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/11/08/ezra-miller-on-justice-leagues-batman-and-flash-relationship5. http://people.com/movies/ben-affleck-jutice-league-gal-gadot-comic-con/6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ltriuluIhM7. http://henrycavill.org/en/blog/interviews/item/1509-henry-cavill-in-men-s-fitness-magazine

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